Some things that got on my nerves in Persona 5 (SPOILERS!)
First things first: This will be me venting some of the major issues I have with persona 5. Yes I know it’s a game, and I’m willing to suspend my disbelief quite a bit, but there are limits. None of these things are major issues, but they do start adding up.
I'm not saying P5 is a bad game, and I'm not saying anything here is the end of the world. These are simply things that bothered me, stood out, or I just consider plain stupid.
This next bit should go without saying but:
HERE BE PERSONA 5 SPOILERS, SPOILERS, AND EVEN MORE SPOILERS
Still reading? Alrighty, let’s get this rant going:
- Despite what Morgana thinks most hight school students are capable of deciding when it’s bedtime. No honest spending 15 mins making 1 lockpick, or quickly reading that tourist brochure isn’t going to make a big difference.
Now had someone remarked if you kept pushing your luck, then sure that would have been perfectly fine. You could have even put in your character actually dozing off in class, and because of that missing questions/getting into trouble.
While we’re on the subject: I have this massage skill, so maybe let me use that rather than sending me directly to my bedroom?
Btw, why doesn’t your character turn off their bloody phone after going to bed, or at the very least use silent mode. How come Morgana isn’t nagging him about THAT after the 3rd or so time being woken up by a non urgent text?
Also what kind of freak sleeps fully clothed with phone still in their pocket? I’d love to find a smartphone capable of surviving that much abuse for months.
- Just how many times do you have to get in trouble for loudly, and in public talking about the secret illegal activates you undertake? After that first time, maybe, just maybe don’t do it again?
While we’re at it USE A SODDING EARPIECE rather than hands-free mode.
Perhaps also don’t acknowledge your secret identity to any stranger that asks more than once.
- Why does the ace hacker who hacks into your conversations, and uses those against you not secure your digital communications after joining the group?
- Why is everyone instantly okay with having the guy who just tried to blackmail your friend into posing nude for him join the party? She wasn’t just personally the victim of sexual harassment by her teacher, but her best friend tried to kill herself after sexual assault, and yet she is perfectly okay with this?
- What is the deal with almost everyone initially trying to blackmail you. Once maybe, but time and time again? You really want to let that kind of person into your inner circle?
it’s semi understandable in one case, but even that gets silly: At some point this person calls off your deal promising not to expose you. Only to start threatening you again once she feels things aren’t progressing quickly enough.
- The phantom thieves learn some thug is blackmailing kids into paying him hush money after filming them trafficking in drugs. How do we deal with this? First we send the only kid in our group already on probation to chat up the henchmen recruiting these kids. Ignoring that being seen/caught on camera with criminals will almost certainly get him into huge trouble.
After that things go wrong, and you end up barging in on the big boss who just kidnapped a girl that’s blackmailing you into investigating him, without you even recording the conversation via your phone. Surprise, surprise, he blackmails you with pictures as per his known modus operandi. Who could have seen that one coming?
- Becky doesn’t want you to call her from your own phone, but she is perfectly fine with texting with your character on that exact same phone as Becky. We won’t go into how you pay for her services from a payphone, or what kind of company would even let you order such services from a payphone. Let’s also completely ignore the fact someone sooner or later would notice the same maid going into a café after closing. (Although the locals even gossip about how much food the boss buys.)
We won’t ask why your guardian doesn’t remark on you regularly calling people on that payphone registered to his business instead of your cell.
He also doesn’t notice those cars regularly dropping off someone at his café after he left even though he basically lives next door.
Becky lives not that far from Leblanc (That’s a partial reason why she offers to come work for you on her days off without going through her maid service), so why is she perfectly fine with standing around in a laundromat in her secret maid outfit not that far from where she lives? The person you are staying with has met her at school, so she’d risk running into him at the very least.
- The Hermit is a shut in living next door that initially can’t really go anywhere alone, and she doesn’t go to school. So exactly why can’t I go over on rainy days, and ask if she wants to hang out?
- No matter how you feel about the soundtrack, after 90+ hours hearing the same 3 or so songs I would have killed for some variation. At least offer a music volume slider. Now I ended up muting sound completely until a conversation started.
- What good is a fast forward if it doesn’t work half the time? Especially if your game makes me do multiple runs let me skip all those bits I’ve seen countless times.
The fact there is very limited replay value from a story perspective just makes this worse. I was actually quite disappointed with how few choices, and optional side conversations there are with your confidants outside the ranking events.
- Merely based on how Morgana lays on your desk while crafting anyone would know what gender he is. Even with a fixed adult cat there is no guesswork involved.
Using a female voice actor, and calling him Morgana isn’t helping here. I had actually hoped it indeed turned out that the cat was female, but sadly they didn’t go there.
- If you’re supposed to be dead taking the subway, and slinking around school and other areas that certainly have security cameras might not be the brightest idea around. On the same stupid scale is using your own phone. (We know he isn’t using a burner/other sim because people keep sending the dead person texts checking if he’s really dead.)
- What kind of lousy family does this guy have? They dump him with the only person who will take him for payment in another city. They don’t take him to that new location and at least check the place out. They don’t call/text, send him a xmas/bday gift, or come get their child after he is proven innocent in court.
- If Sojiro is your court appointed guardian someone would have come to inspect the living conditions before approving them this. A messy, dusty attic store room would not pass muster. He is being paid to do this, so making you work in his business without pay under the implied threat of being kicked out is at the very absolute least abuse of power, and more than likely against child labour laws.
- We're supposed to feel sorry for the psychotic mass murdering lunatic, because he is young, and gets betrayed in the end. Even if most of the horrible deeds he does are his ideas, and even quite a few nasty things other people do come from his clearly deranged mind.
- after the 50th time or so maybe stop blaming adult? At least half the scum you deal with are other ‘young’ people, and a good chunk of the decent ones you reply on aren’t.
- Disabling streaming was stupid given the game was already out for a while in japan and there is no shortage of Japanese videos out there, but automatic trophy screenshots? Now every single time it would give me a double ding whining about not being able to take the screenshot.
Maybe this one is entirely on Sony and there is no way for games to suppress these, but it is bloody annoying for me as a consumer.
- I understand using odd fonts from a style point of view, but as a legally blind gamer those things are a royal pain in the arse.
Also please at the very least include all dialogue in your subtitles. There are chunks in cutscenes that simply have no subtitles at all. Not covering all background chatter is one thing, but this was just sloppy.
On a related note: If you’re going to put text bubbles on screen please put them in a fixed spot, and especially those on static screens should ideally go in the middle of the screen. There is no good reason not to do this since there is nothing else showing on these other than a generic background anyway, so they aren’t obscuring anything.
- Seriously though, if that bloody cat tells me I cannot do anything other than go to bed one more time he’s sleeping outside from now on.




